I switched everything to my Gmail account, I had 105 acco...

rstra
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@Nmr3 

I switched everything to my Gmail account, I had 105 accounts πŸ€ͺ that needed switching. I ended up deleting about 20, but it still took a long time.

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I was told the opposite today in a Shaw store. They said...

Lylec
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I was told the opposite today in a Shaw store. They said they felt confident that the shaw.ca email addresses would DEFINITELY continue. They indicated they once bought over by Rogers, that Shaw would continue as a stand-alone entity at least for emails.  

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Yes, totally agree.  Seniors such as myself will be left...

Lylec
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Yes, totally agree.  Seniors such as myself will be left adrift.  I have google account and have an old hotmail account. Neither fulfill my simple needs as with Shaw.

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-- Seniors such as myself will be left adrift.   Doubtful...

mdk
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@Lylec -- Seniors such as myself will be left adrift.  

Doubtful.  If/when Rogers merges with Shaw, Rogers will want to keep you as a monthly-paying customer, i.e., not wanting you to cancel and switch to Telus.

Note that Telus customers must use GMail, since Telus has "outsourced" all E-mail processing, instead of operating their own E-mail systems. Of course, you can choose to never logon to your Telus-linked GMail, and do all your E-mail processing via some other service: Hotmail or Yahoo Mail or ...

So, for many months, there will not be any changes to your E-mail setup.

Rogers probably will take many months to "migrate" each Shaw customer's E-mail.  If Shaw has 1 million customers, 1 million "migrations" will take a while.

 

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Now that the Shaw-Rogers merger is confirmed, the questio...

Lotusland
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Now that the Shaw-Rogers merger is confirmed, the question still remains to what will happen to all the Shaw email addresses? Even if Rogers migrates the existing Shaw email addresses onto their network and converts them to @RogerS.com email addresses, there may be issues for those email addresses that have already being taken on the Rogers domain. So for example, we have username@shaw.ca on Shaw & username@rogers.com already in use on Rogers, what will happen then?

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Like many others, I have decided to switch the old Shaw e...

kenohrn
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Like many others, I have decided to switch the old Shaw e-mail addresses I use for UserName or Contact address on a whole bunch of web sites. Some are easy; some require a phone call or chat; some require a new account and shut down the old one. But they all take time.  It's a pain.

I'm switching to either a Microsoft Outlook address or a GMail address, thinking that these companies and their e-mail services will be around for a  long time. 

As a by-product, I'm getting rid of some web site accounts that I no longer use and updating passwords that are weak. 

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Rogers might keep Shaw email accounts active for years. I wa...

gordon1111
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Rogers might keep the Shaw email accounts active for years. I was a customer of MTS prior to Bell purchasing them in 2017 and they still have mymts.net emails around in 2023. I don’t think people have to worry to much about that. 

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Like yourself, I have a great deal of concern regarding l...

proud-boomer
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Like yourself, I have a great deal of concern regarding loss of my decades old email addresses, of which I have 10 with Shaw.  Besides my personal connections to family and friends, there are hundreds of things linked to my email addresses, some of which I likely don't even recall, which are there for emergency or rare use.  Then there are my medical, banking, investment, subscriptions, retail newsletters and ads, and articles written by others who I gave permission to use my public exposed contacts.

I have been lobbying in this regard for months now, with Shaw, Rogers and even Minister Champagne, who made the final decision. To date, my emails in that regard have not been responded to.  The powers that be seem to have forgotten much of the issues of Shaw's broadband clients.

I want to clarify some issues which have been muddied in part by a local radio tech show, when it comes to what Telus has done in regard to Google. Before that move, both Telus and Shaw used the same email handing company, Zimbra, out of New Jersey USA.  After Zimbra lost about a weeks worth of Telus email they were unable to recover, Telus went looking for an alternative solution, but one which would minimize the inconvenience to their email users, many of which used the @telus.net or @telusplanet.net email domains. They wanted those emails already registered and in use to remain the same. While it is true that Telus engaged Google to supply their email services, they are NOT gmail.  Unlike gmail, which is a free service, Telus pays for the use of the Google servers to store and coordinate the email distribution.  This is part of the Google Enterprise services, the same one used by corporations, where they can set up their own corporate domain, such that no one even need know that Google is involved. Now, here's where the rumour mill got it very wrong.  Unlike gmail, which indeed Google filters and looks for keywords for advertising, Google Enterprise mail is securely protected from prying eyes.  There are companies which use Google Enterprise mail service to move very secretive company emails, with all sorts of private, personal and business sensitive information. Further, in the case with Telus, they maintained control of the privacy requirements that people agreed to when they first acquired a @telus email account.

Admittedly, the transfer process didn't go as smoothly as anyone wanted, and some emails went astray, some emails ended up in wrong email boxes, and it took months to complete the transfer, however, for the vast majority of people, it just went, and the outside world was none the wiser that Telus has moved their email service to Google from Zimbra.  I have suggested to the powers that be at both companies and the federal government that they could have the same done with @shaw emails. As it is, Shaw is currently paying Zimbra for these services, so the costs to move to Google Enterprise would end up a Rogers cost on a permanent basis, but with a $26 BILLION dollar buy out, I'm guessing they can afford it, to keep us from becoming very miffed.

I would ask each of you to petition Shaw and Rogers (and Minister of Science, Technology and Innovation the Hon. Francois Phillipe Champagne) to let them know that this issue is very important to us.  email is: francois-phillipe.champagne@parl.ca           All is not lost... yet.

Proud-boomer

 

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-- what will happen then? If your conjecture is true, the...

mdk
Grand Master

@Lotusland -- what will happen then?

If your conjecture is true, then you will have to choose a different ID.

 

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I used to have a @home address when it was Rogers interne...

michaelstein
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I used to have a @Home address when it was Rogers internet here. In 2001, it switched to a @shaw address when they acquired their western Canada assets. I presume the same will happen again.

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